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  • #145439
    Jörg Haas
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    Hi,
    I am using Nitro on a variety of devices: two Macs, one iPad, two iPhones. All connecting to the same Apple photo library.
    My workflow so far:
    I copy the RAW pictures from the SD card to an external SSD attached to may Macbook. I open these pictures in a new file system window. I select the images that I consider remotely and potentially of value. I export these images into the photo library, with Nitro. Then I start editing in the Macbook in the photo library window. I often delete further pictures that prove to be not worth it. So far I have assumed that the edits will then be automatically synchronised with the Apple photo library and hence all my other items, but this doesn’t seem to work.
    Overall I am now not completely sure how synchronisation works and if this keeps the full information of the RAW pictures or whether this goes via JPEG. Can someone help?

    #145542
    Gary Small
    Participant

    Are you selecting “metadata:include all” in your export settings? Otherwise, I don’t see how any edits done would not sync in iCloud. So if this is still not working, I will follow this for any explanation or troubleshooting offered by Nik…gary

    #145543
    Nik Bhatt
    Keymaster

    I’m not sure I am totally following what you are doing but I will try to answer.
    Synchronization of Photo Libraries is handled by Apple, and works using iCloud Photos. Nitro does not have any ability to influence how that works.

    When you are exporting from the file system to the Photo Library via Nitro, how are you doing that? If you are exporting a rendered image (e.g., a JPEG) then Nitro will make a new file with the edits “burned in” and add it to the photo library. The original is not copied into the library and the edits are not copied either.

    If you export the original + metadata to the Photo Library, then Nitro will add the original, all Nitro metadata (including editing parameters) and the full size rendered image to the library. You can edit non-destructively and the edits etc will synch over iCloud if you are using iCloud Photo Library.

    #145546
    Jörg Haas
    Participant

    Thanks Nik, I an exporting the original + Metadata. In the Apple Photo library, I find my pictures in Raw, so I assume this export has worked. But I struggle to see that the edits I do in the Nitro Photo library window are automatically synched with the Apple Photo library when I access the latter with the respective photo apps on iOS or MacOS. Is there a long delay, can I force the system to sync the Nitro edits into the Apple photo library and from there to the Apps on the various devices?

    • This reply was modified 1 day, 13 hours ago by Jörg Haas.
    #145550
    Gary Small
    Participant

    Nik may follow up with more on this, but of the three export options (from the File System Window), apparently you are choosing “copies the original and rating / adjustment metadata to the Photo Library”.

    I do not place any RAW files in Apple Photos (AP) due waste of space AND AP does not natively render Fuji RAF compressed files, so I have never tried this. BUT…apparently YOUR untouched RAW file is going into AP along with some “xmp” file / data. I don’t know if AP will use that XMP sidecar (which in all of my experience is a non standard XMP file that nothing else can read). If AP does not read that XMP file, then there is no way for it to see your edits since they are never “baked in” to RAW files (by design).

    Watching this to see if there is additional clarity or corrections from Nik….gary

    #145551
    Nik Bhatt
    Keymaster

    If you are exporting original + metadata, then the edits should be present. Do you see them in the Photos library on the machine you are actually exporting from (but not on other machines)? Trying to figure out if this is an iCloud issue or something else.

    @Gary, the app doesn’t work by writing XMP files to the Photos library. I have a different way so that things are properly stored and read by Photos.

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