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Gary Small
ParticipantOf course, leave it to Apple to muddy the feature with a new OS release. I’m not fully sure I think I understand your point about colors, but as long as “portrait” is still spelled “portrait” the Finder would (find) “portrait”. I know finder tags are weird because the system does not allow one to sort or alphabetize them (among other possible issues as you point out). While colors aren’t really that useful to me, I do note that when I add tags in the Finder, the colors default to the same color as previously used.
I DID see that I could (and did) “import” finder tags and see them displayed in the Info panel, but haven’t explored if it has any search functionality.
Thanks Nik.
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Gary Small
ParticipantThanks Nik, but your post today indicates that Nitro “supports” Finder tags in Tahoe. Have you posted any clarification on that? The cataloging software (Photo Supreme) writes finder tags as a synchronization option. I suppose the issue you described with changing those tags outside of Nitro or other PHOTO software could be an issue, but I simply see it as a “one way street” in terms of writing finder tags. The photo software doesn’t need to read or import them…but the option exits in the Finder to do a Spotlight search if one discontinues using a certain commercially branded photo software.
My case in point is moving away from Lightroom (a few years back) left me with a hierarchical keyword mess that took hours to untangle with other software (Photo Mechanic). Having finder tags would be a nice backup.
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Gary Small
ParticipantI think Heic compatibility outside of the Apple universe are too problematic to be useful when coming straight out of the camera or iPhone. I’ve read that Google dropped support for jpeg-xl maybe because rendering time issues over the compression… so JXL may be lost in the wilderness for a fair amount of time.
I think a workflow (developing AND keyboarding) using Nitro initially with export of Heic files into Photos library and moving the raw (or other original) files to a dedicated catalog (Photo Mechanic, Photo supreme, xnView) with keywords hopefully intact will work pretty well for me.
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Gary Small
ParticipantThanks Nik, that is a very helpful understanding that you provided.
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Gary Small
ParticipantFurther follow-up…..So this has been a bit like “herding cats”. what I THINK has been the issue is that (only) Apple Pro Raw dngs have a conflict when other software writes keywords INSIDE the DNG and others write xml files, which may conflict with Nitro’s XMP files. It looks like I may have resolved the issue, but will continue to experiment….gary
Gary Small
ParticipantHi Nik,
Follow up issue with keyword compatibility. In Files Mode, I added keywords to 10 Apple Pro Raw (DNG) files (as a test). XMP files were created, but none of my other software (DxO PL, xnView, ON1, Photo Supreme) read them. conversely, keywords written by Photo Supreme in “xmp” are not read by Nitro.
Perhaps I am doing something wrong. I have a rather large catalog (approx 50k) photos in Photo Mechanic and more recently in Photo Supreme. I am somewhat keen on starting my workflow with Nitro for initial demosaicing, editing and keywording…but need to be able to retain the keyword efforts in my other cataloging software.
Is this possible, or do I need to rethink the process?
Also, if I WERE to rely on Nitro as my primary DAM…is there a limit to number of files managed? The ideal scenario (I thinK) would be to manage the raw files in Nitro Files mode and the exported Heic files in Apple Photos library…all from within Nitro.
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Gary Small
ParticipantThanks Nik. Photos not reading Xmp files says it all! I have previously had issues with software not reading Heic keywords written by software such as Photo Mechanic. As I understand it, HEIF has some proprietary issues which some software either avoids or doesn’t fully support. Jpeg-XL would seem to solve some off that as “open source” with even better compression and support for 16bit color. I HAVE noticed however, that the increased compression can result in longer rendering time.
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