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  • #133583
    Joachim Jundt
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    Hello Nik,

    last week I rented a Hasselblad. As Phocus is a great raw-converter, but not fast and probably not adapted to M-processors, I was trying my other raw-converters. Iridient was no surprise, it supports pretty much all cameras with few exceptions. Nitro was a surprise! Thank you. Okay, the “import” of Phocus, just to generate 170MB 16 bit TIFs of 200 MB Raws is hard to beat in terms of quality colours, sharpness, altogether files sizes per image and slowness…
    So I can use Nitro, but the previews are so blurred that I would have to export first and judge after. Why is Iridient doing a better job here?

    #133601
    Nik Bhatt
    Keymaster

    My guess (and it’s only a guess without looking at the RAWs), is that the embedded JPEG from Hasselblad is very small. Nitro uses the embedded JPEG to accelerate performance. I believe you can right-click on the images and choose Build Thumbnails to improve the quality.

    #133681
    Joachim Jundt
    Participant

    Your guess is right, Nik. Rebuilding thumbnails is improving the quality of the 3FR raw-file. Now I need to know where these previews are stored as I host all other raw-converter databases on an external SSD. I’d like to do the same with Nitro but so far I haven’t found a database related to Nitro. If Nitro needs the internal disk which is limited and very expensive at Apple, I can’t use it in the future to fill it up with JPG previews.

    #133959
    Joachim Jundt
    Participant

    Nik, it has been 40 days now since I asked where Nitro stores it’s preview thumbnails. As Nitro improves it’s previews drastically, I’d like to create thumbnails for all of my 3FR raw files. But as long as I don’t know in which location they are hosted, I shy back to go on with this. I’d love to use my X2D (I bought one after the rental) together with Nitro and will later do a raw-converter comparison. Editing with Nitro so far was the best experience of all three converters.

    Btw., how can I always see the image’s name? I tried to find a setting to do so, no success.

    #133961
    Nik Bhatt
    Keymaster

    Previews are located here: ‘~/Library/Containers/com.gentlemencoders.nitro/Data/Library/Caches’. There is a folder for the File System and one for the Photo Library (which is used only when the Photo Library cannot make its own previews). The ~ refers to your home directory.

    Please do not make changes to this folder – it is for the app’s internal use.

    The image’s name should appear when the app has finished indexing the directory. The only case I have seen when a file name doesn’t appear (other than indexing not being done) is for Shared Albums in the Photo Library. So if you have a case that doesn’t work, please email me so I can troubleshoot it.

    The app only stores its previews on the startup disk. This is a limitation of the app. It might change with time, but I can’t promise it.

    You can also clear the caches in Settings but it will build them again as it needs them.

    #133964
    Joachim Jundt
    Participant

    As an addition: For now I can live with that workaround. But with growing image and preview archives, I expect an app to reside on an external drive, at least with the data folders. I cannot open the Mac Studio and plug another drive into it.

    #133962
    Joachim Jundt
    Participant

    Thanks for your reply. You’re sure about the path?
    no com.Gentlemencoders.nitro visibleno com.Gentlemencoders.nitro visible
    I found one here: /Users/JoJu/Library/Containers/com.gentlemencoders.nitro/Data/Library/HTTPStorages/com.gentlemencoders.nitro

    And the imho real library with some “fat JPG suspects” is here: ‘/Users/JoJu/Library/Containers/com.gentlemencoders.nitro/Data/Library/Caches/File System/FullSize-1’
    123 files, 1.43 GB – now I let JPEGmini work on them: 934 MB, ⅓ saved, and Nitro still working. Excellent, I will treat all 3FR jpg previews in Nitro that way!

    File names missing:
    no filename shown in thumbnail view
    no filename shown in editor view
    Especially when using the comparison or multi-view and deleting the less good ones, it would be nice to see the filenames.

    #133967
    Nik Bhatt
    Keymaster

    The images were not included – perhaps they are local paths?
    Yes, the path I provided is correct, and the one where you located the JPEGs is the same path – as I mentioned, there are two subdirectories: File System and Photo Library. And then subdirectories inside those.

    Deleting JPEG previews underneath Nitro can confuse it, but it’s up to you. Periodically, you can also use the Clear Cache feature.
    The file names do appear in Comparison and N-Up modes. They are toward the bottom of the image in those modes.

    #133970
    Joachim Jundt
    Participant

    I give up. 10 minutes of typing and linking and the post (with the proper links to the images) just disappeared after clicking “submit”? Not even an “awaits moderation”? Edit: Okay, after submitting this post the notification box appeared.

    Btw. I’m not deleting any previews. JPEGmini is an app which reduces the files size of JPEGs and MOVs without degrading their quality.

    I need to see the filename all the time, not only in some views.

    #133968
    Joachim Jundt
    Participant

    Sorry, used the wrong procedure and since my post was awaitimng moderation and this forum doesn’t have any preview function, i couldn’t check before.

    New try
    com Gentlemencoders nitro not found

    Plenty of space under the image to show at least a filename

    Thumbnail view has only rating and colours

    I need to see filenames instead of this “Photos”-like image tiles. Imagine a finder view with only previews and no other metadata. hard to work with, right? Just updated Nitro, thank you, but still not enough information to see outside the (i)-palette

    #133974
    Nik Bhatt
    Keymaster

    The reason you aren’t seeing file names is because of the Square thumbnail setting. When you use square, then it fills the entire cell. Switch to Aspect ratio thumbnails (in the toolbar) and you will see the file names.

    #133982
    Joachim Jundt
    Participant

    Any specific reason for this imo nonsensical limitation? It’s not only about square thumbnail setting . And btw., Nitro on my Mac is set up in German, so I will use furtheron the translated description. For what on Earth anybody needs square thumbnails? To imitate the “Photos” view? I don’t know any sensor proportion to be squarish. We are using landscape or portrait orientation and a square ignores this information amongst many others. Does anybody else know a professional raw converter with square thumbnails?

    When I work on an image, I switch off the space consuming film strip view. From that moment on the image becomes anonymous, and for each bit of metadata I need to scroll up or jump when in Edit Mode into EXIF mode. I don’t know how you work on/edit raws but I suspect my workflow being very different from yours.

    #134037
    Nik Bhatt
    Keymaster

    Square thumbnails is a mode that maximizes the photo in the cell, at the cost of metadata. It’s not the default (at least on Macs). I don’t know what you mean by non-sensical. Some people like it. Nobody is making you use it. Your workflow may be different than mine – it may be different from other people. I don’t enforce a workflow on people and I don’t judge them either.

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